Is “biblical Christianity” the only rational worldview? (And is atheism wicked?)
Yesterday David Parker provided us with a link to “triablogue“. Once there I read this:
“While atheism is wicked, I truly appreciated Azrienoch’s logical rigor and consistency. His analysis only confirms what I’ve been saying for years, which goes something like this: If you are logically consistent and want to have a worldview that can ground rationality and provide an indubitable moral basis to be rational, then there is only one worldview that you can adhere to in the end: Biblical Christianity.”
Yoiks! This is wrong on so many levels it is hard to know where to begin. The problems begin when we simply try to figure out what the claim actually is. So what are the beliefs one must hold to have the worldview of “biblical Christianity”? Well there are two words here for our consideration: biblical, and Christianity. First off, the only rational worldview according to this author is a biblical one. What is that supposed to mean? It could mean holding the set of beliefs held by one of the authors of the Bible. Or maybe we should also extend it to the beliefs of one of the main characters in the Bible that plays for the home team. (Thus Herod the Great probably doesn’t get included. Neither does Jezebel. Although maybe they did have a biblical worldview and they just didn’t live according to their beliefs. It’s hard to say.)
But surely it couldn’t mean that. For one thing, the authors and main characters in the Bible held very different beliefs. The set of beliefs about theology, history, culture, and the natural world held by Abraham or Moses or David is very different from the set of beliefs held by Paul or Timothy or Mary. So if there is one set of core beliefs about the ultimate constituents of reality and the structure of the natural world that a person must hold to be rational (because a worldview is at least that) then the various authors and characters of scripture couldn’t have held a biblical worldview because they differed. Abraham was a polytheist who came to worship Yahweh alone. Paul was a monotheist. Abraham didn’t hold the belief that God could be incarnate (or at least one person who is God could). Paul apparently did. So with whom should we throw in our lot? Which one of these sets of beliefs is rational?
The reference to “Christianity” helps us narrow this down a bit. Perhaps then the only rational biblical worldview for us today is the one that was held by New Testament figures and characters post-Jesus in the fledgling Christian church. This would help us with the diversity problem because it would narrow us to Paul and Timothy and Mary. So the only rational worldview is that held by Paul and other New Testament, early church Christians. And that’s the worldview of biblical Christianity that we should hold as well.
I’m confused. What does this mean for many of the beliefs in our worldview? Science, for instance. Did Paul accept the atomic theory of matter, the germ theory of disease and plate tectonics? I don’t think so. Actually, I’m pretty sure he didn’t. But that is part of the worldview of the moderately scientifically literate denizen of the western world. That person probably also believes that democracy is the best way for citizenry to govern their affairs. And he is also likely an advocate of the free market, perhaps with a dash of socialism as we see in the mixed economies of the western world. These beliefs about science, politics and economics are pretty basic and thus constitute part of one’s worldview. But they weren’t part of Paul’s. So should we retrogress? Could this author really mean that Paul’s three storied universe and Roman governance and economy is really the way we should believe and organize ourselves today? Surely not.
I suspect that when this author says the only rational worldview is “Biblical Christianity” what he probably means is the only rational worldview is one which includes a set of theological beliefs consistent with and derived from those held by the authors and main figures of the New Testament church. So let’s try that out.
This author apparently believes that there was not significant disagreement among New Testament Christians. But that is very far from obvious. Did Paul and James (brother of Jesus and leader of the Jerusalem church) see eye to eye on the role of the law in the church? There certainly is much rational room to doubt this. (And remember, all we need to throw a wrench into the author’s claim is to point out rational grounds for dissent.) But if they didn’t agree, or at least if we have reasonable grounds to think it possible that they didn’t agree, then which one was the biblical Christian? Needless to say there are other possible areas of disagreement as well. For example, would James have agreed with the christology packed into the Gospel of John? Maybe, but possibly not.
At the very least, it would surely be naive to deny that there is not development in the New Testament church’s theology. For instance, there is a pretty big gap between the tacit adoptionism of Peter’s preaching in Acts 2:36 (“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.”) and the lofty declaration of John 1:1 (In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.) And this development carries seamlessly from the close of the NT period into the early church. Thus the christology of Justin Martyr, or Athanasius, or Cyril, or John Calvin, is different than that of James and John. And this means in part that there are certain important claims about the incarnation and atonement on which Peter the Apostle, John the Apostle, James, Justin Martyr, Athanasius, Cyril and John Calvin would have disagreed.
So then let’s try this. Maybe ”Biblical Christianity” is constituted by the set of core theological claims on which all these Christians would have agreed. Maybe we should listen to Vincent of Lerins on this point when he famously declared: “Now in the Catholic Church itself we take the greatest care to hold that which has been believed everywhere, always and by all.” Oh yeah, it’s just that simple. And please show me that set of beliefs, you know the set of essential beliefs on which Peter the Apostle, John the Apostle, James, Justin Martyr, Athanasius, Cyril, John Calvin, Vincent of Lerins, and the author at Triablogue all agree is essential, necessary and sufficient to have the worldview of “Biblical Christianity.”
And so finally my conclusion. We can’t even provide a meaningful definition for what “the worldview of Biblical Christianity” is, so it seems a bit overreaching to say this is the only rational worldview. Sadly, the author of Triablogue appears to be doing nothing more than providing empty rhetorical bluster to perpetuate the delusion that only he, and those who agree with him, are rational.
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Jerry Rivard says:
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 5:57pm
But what of the parenthetical addition to your title, which you did not address? Is atheism wicked? If so, why?
randal says:
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 6:03pm
The author at triablogue made the judgment that atheism is wicked, full stop. He did so based on a hopelessly vague view of what is rational. Once his view has been toppled we are open to reassessing his claim that atheism is wicked.
I think atheism is wrong, and I think a person could be an atheist for reasons that are wicked (just like one can be a Democrat for reasons that are wicked, e.g. to cause grief to a Republican parent that one resents), but I don’t share the author’s unqualified charge. You have to read the final chapter in my new book to get the full meal deal.
Jerry Rivard says:
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 6:29pm
Just so we’re clear, by “atheism is wrong” you don’t mean morally wrong, just that it’s an incorrect belief, right?
I agree with you that a person can have wicked reasons for being an atheist (or a Democrat, Republican, or Christian)… and still you’re telling me to read a book. ;o)
I assume you mean You’re Not as Crazy As I Think. Will there be a Kindle edition?
And are you aware that the Kindle edition of Theology in Search of Foundations is priced at a whopping $90? I don’t think you’ll be selling many copies at that price.
randal says:
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 6:37pm
Yeah, I mean that it’s wrong in terms of being incorrect. Yes there should be a Kindle edition. As for the pricing of that other book, don’t ask me to explain the logic of Oxford University Press. It’s simply outrageous.
Pastor Dustin S. Segers says:
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 7:09pm
Hi Randal,
Thanks for your constructive criticism of my Triablogue article. I will take it into consideration in the future and seek to clarify my terms better. Thanks and God bless!
Love in the Lamb,
Dustin S. Segers
randal says:
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 7:22pm
Thanks for your courteous response Dustin.
It is obvious we disagree on some substantial issues. So I would be interested to see how you would actually respond to the points I made. Do you think I’m just full of baloney and beans? If so, why? If not, does that mean you are rethinking your position?
Pastor Dustin S. Segers says:
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 8:45pm
Hi Randal,
Great to talk to you. I would love to interact with your points in greater detail, but time fails me. I usually just write an article here and there for Triablogue and don’t really get involved in any extensive online discussion thereafter because (1) it tends to steal time away from my family and church responsibilities and (2) it often devolves into non-productive quarreling. I’m sure you can understand and appreciate this.
However, if I have been given what I perceive to be constructive criticism, I do try to take that into consideration in my subsequent writings.
Regarding you two main points, I think it is valid to ask what “Biblical Christianity” is. I didn’t elaborate on that because the man I was responding to understands what I mean by that and my blog article was a representation of my “letter” responding to his postmodernism. Nevertheless, it may have been helpful to at least provide a hyperlink to another article explaining what I meant by using that phrase.
I agree that at times, first century Christians had theological differences due to a lack of having the totality of New Covenant revelation as found in the 27 books of the NT. The extent of those differences is where our disagreement will exist. I think that they had the necessary, central core beliefs preserved for that first generation in oral tradition and that those oral traditions served as a check against substantial disagreement from developing as it pertains to the nature of Christ and His gospel (cf. “Reinventing Jesus” by Komoszewki, Sawyer, and Wallace and “The Heresy of Orthodoxy” by Kostenberger and Kruger”). The apostles also initially disagreed on some things (cf., the Gal. 2 incident between Peter and Paul) and very early on didn’t quite have everything worked out yet (cf. Acts 15). This is to be expected in the following years post-ascension. Nevertheless, I am not convinced that the canonical, inspired, NT apostolic *writings* or theology expressed in those writings necessarily contradicts themselves.
For example, the epistle of James and those of Paul are reconcilable (cf. Thomas R. Schreiner, “40 Questions about Christians and Biblical Law”, 147-152.) and I have no reason to trust the conclusions of liberal theologians who say otherwise since their anti-supernatural bias effects their conclusions, their anti-supernatural worldviews undermine logic in the first place, thus they are self-refuting, and they conveniently ignore or skirt the answers to these questions provided by conservative evangelical scholars. I realize that my view on this will appear ridiculous to many, but I’m not particularly interested in maintaining academic respectability, but only fidelity to uphold the apostolic deposit as handed down to us providentially through the 39 books of the OT and the 27 of the NT. Thus, I obviously reject the “multiple Christianities” theory that was advocated by Walter Baur and has been resurrected and further developed by folks like Bart Ehrman, Helmut Koester, and Elaine Pagels.
Re: my statement that atheism is wicked, I indeed mean to say that any type of atheistic worldview is *morally reprehensible* or evil by the sheer fact that God says so in His word. Indeed, it is intellectually bankrupt, but it is also morally bankrupt since it is evil to deny God’s existence, for Romans 1:18-32 says that we know that Creator exists through what has been made and as a result, the unbeliever has no excuse. The real problem is that because of the noetic effects of sin, unbelievers suppress that knowledge and go after idols instead.
Thanks for asking and take care.
Love in the Lamb,
Dustin S. Segers
randal says:
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 9:09pm
Thanks for your reply in the midst of the busyness of life. I don’t expect another response since you’re busy but I invite you to pop by from time to time.
The debate continues over how much theological diversity exists in the New Testament. But all I was pointing out in that regard is that Christians do indeed disagree on how much theological diversity exists and they have their reasons for doing so. Moreover, they have reasons for choosing one rather than another voice from that apparent diversity as their interpretive trump over the other voices. (Thus John’s Logos christology trumps Peter’s early adoptionism.) That’s in part how we end up with a bewildering diversity of beliefs among Christians.
All that pushes us back to that smoldering question: what are the set of theological beliefs a Christian must hold and apart from which they are sinning and being irrational? Are Catholics irrational because they disagree with Protestants? Are mainline Christians irrational because they disagree with evangelicals? How do you make those judgments?
So to sum up, I still find your definition of biblical Christianity to be hopelessly vague for the purposes to which you’ve put it, namely declaring everyone who doesn’t hold that set of beliefs irrational. And this is because you haven’t told me what that set of beliefs that every rational person must hold is. You have only declared your belief (from which it would seem other informed, rational Christians dissent) that the theological diversity of the New Testament is not a problem.
Here’s one of the elephants in the room: what is your definition of rationality? I would be very interested to scrutinize that definition because I suspect that you will have a very difficult time demonstrating how only Christians are rational in their worldview beliefs.
Thanks for being a good-spirited debater.
Perry Robinson says:
Monday, August 29, 2011 at 5:25pm
I’ve seen the remarks about Peter’s alleged adoptionism, but I haven’t seen a reason for thinking its there. Plenty of non-Adoptionists use that passage from Peter and it seems amenable to a non-adoptionist point of view. Why think then that it implies adoptionism?
randal says:
Wednesday, August 31, 2011 at 8:17pm
It is certainly natural to read Peter’s statement in his Acts sermon as a form of adoptionism. Regardless this statement certainly is markedly different from John’s declarations.
Pastor Dustin S. Segers says:
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 9:34pm
Hi Randall,
Steve Hays has provided a response to some of your questions here:
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2011/01/atheism-is-evil.html
Take care!
Dustin S. Segers
Shawn says:
Wednesday, January 12, 2011 at 1:26am
Randal,
Of late you seem to be entirely too rational for a God botherer.
“And so finally my conclusion. We can’t even provide a meaningful definition for what “the worldview of Biblical Christianity” is”.
And so, how is it you know what “version” of Christianity you are following (or anyone is following) is the correct one, from your God’s point of view?
It appears to me to be just a matter of personal (mortal) opinion.
That being the case, surely atheism (or Judaism) is just another personal opinion, no more “wicked” than a Christian who doesn’t believe in creationism?
S1lverBullet says:
Wednesday, January 12, 2011 at 2:11am
Shawn,
Randal is well on his way to atheism with a small stop-over in agnosticism.
Just give him time.